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Postby Empyrean » Tue May 18, 2010 8:09 am

77IM wrote:If you're happy with 2E, why would you bother re-purchasing the exact same material in 3E? If 3E is an improvement and the material for it is new and interesting, then wouldn't you be happy buying it?

I can understand being upset that there won't be any more 2E products, and being upset that it might be harder to find a 2E group to play with, but if you feel like you MUST buy all the new products for the new edition, the problem lies with you. I learned this lesson the hard way with D&D 3E -- I bought every single book, then when 3.5 came out, I felt like I had to buy them all again. Eventually I realized that I didn't need to -- I was happier buying only those books that I actually liked and used and enjoyed reading. By the time D&D 4E came out, I felt NO compulsion to buy every book -- I just got the core rules, plus a few extra books that specifically interested me. I suggest you try the same with M&M 3E.

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Yes, but that is the point...even if I like M&M3E, I must at least re-buy one book - the core rules. Also, since I'm the GM for the most part, other such books become more necessary. Another point concerning to the core rule book - there are going to be two versions of it. One for DC and one for the core M&M3E. Why ? If the both contain the same rules, why would anyone purchase both ? Doesn't this cost more for GR to print the same rules with different artwork ? Then in order to make them both viable products, don't the need to be differentiated by more than artwork ? And, if this is the case, then do I need both books to get " all " the rules ? I'm not saying each book wouldn't be a stand-alone product, I'm sure it is...but there are alot of unanswered questions here. As for your 4th Ed analogy, if you liked or played alot of Fighters, then you bought Sword & Fist, Complete Warrior and Martial Power - essentially the same book, 3 times! Maybe you bought less overall books, but still friggin annoying.

As for compatability, ability scores are now gone. You just use the modifiers, much like True20. I'm not a fan of this design. Yes, you cut out the middle man, but it is such an ingrained design element that I have been playing with for like 30+ years, its a design element I've always loved and trusted. Moving away from this is moving in a direction I'm not liking. You can say I have a 20 STR or a +5 Str. They both say the same thing, but on paper the 20 looks a hell of a lot more impressive. Also, my group and I use ability scores to help in decision making during a game, such as for Initiative. If 2 people roll the same number, the higher Dex goes. Same Dex ? Higher Int. cutting out those steps removes an increment that we found useful. YMMV.
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Postby Shadowchaser » Tue May 25, 2010 12:14 pm

New Interview with Juicy Details about DC Adventures, M&M 3E and... some other super-hero game from another company (Sorry, Green Ronin!).

http://www.comicheronews.com/?p=9552

Mmm. Tasty news. Omnomnomnom!
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Postby Rhinotaur » Tue May 25, 2010 1:36 pm

Shadowchaser wrote:New Interview with Juicy Details about DC Adventures, M&M 3E and... some other super-hero game from another company (Sorry, Green Ronin!).

http://www.comicheronews.com/?p=9552

Mmm. Tasty news. Omnomnomnom!

Some interesting nuggets of info in there. Thanks.
Charge!

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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby magestar » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:36 pm

I'm sorry if this has already been answered, but will this be available at GenCon?
That which does not kill me...had better run pretty f!@#ing fast!
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby Pramas » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:32 pm

magestar wrote:I'm sorry if this has already been answered, but will this be available at GenCon?


That is the plan, approvals and printer willing.
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby Slobo » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:59 am

hello there. I'm a french guy of 34 years od. Excuse me english if i wrote this wrong.

I'm here for seeing the new DC RPG (I have a old supplément for JLA of wegang publishing but not the basic book)
I have also the Marvel Univers RPG books, but it's not with dice.
I have second édition of the basic book of M&M, the magic book and freedom City. And I have the Crooks of the first édition.

I'm happy to watch your new édition grown. And I will be extating to playing in Dc world.

But I don't known if i don't mastery your game well, but I have unbalance between Vigilants and Power héros. I hope this time it will be well.
And I hope that you write a new versions of the crooks and the other supplément, because i don't see me do the change.
I talk of that beacause in the same time, Dc will be in Online RPG. And this is a huge foes for RPG in IRL.

I have wrote two time in your blog and hope for answer. There or in the blog.
I wish you god work and hope to make friends !
Friendshiply !
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby WebScud » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:35 am

I think the preorder just went live, unless I missed the order button earlier.

Is there no book + PDF combo like the Dargon Age preoroders?
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby WebScud » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:37 am

WebScud wrote:I think the preorder just went live, unless I missed the order button earlier.

Is there no book + PDF combo like the Dargon Age preoroders?


Never mind. I added the book to my cart and was offered the PDF for $5. Good deal.
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby flyingcircus » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:29 pm

Oh man I love this game, its the BOMB!

Hey use the new Wonder Woman outfit when you do another writeup on her!

ARTICLE: http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/06/2 ... n-costume/

thanks for a great game.
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby trunkmonkee » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:37 am

The new outfit is cool and all but I do not think it would fit in with the idea of "Iconic" write ups for the characters. I can't wait to see the game. My FLGS is supposed to be signing up for the GR pre order listing but I do not know if I can wait to get the code for the discounted PDF:).
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby flyingcircus » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:08 am

trunkmonkee wrote:The new outfit is cool and all but I do not think it would fit in with the idea of "Iconic" write ups for the characters. I can't wait to see the game. My FLGS is supposed to be signing up for the GR pre order listing but I do not know if I can wait to get the code for the discounted PDF:).


I'm not talking about the Handbook silly, I mean in the Heroes & Villains book when it comes out, those aren't going to be the iconic characters, they're suppose to be the current incarnations I believe. :green:
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby chrislackey » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:58 am

WebScud wrote:
WebScud wrote:I think the preorder just went live, unless I missed the order button earlier.

Is there no book + PDF combo like the Dargon Age preoroders?


Never mind. I added the book to my cart and was offered the PDF for $5. Good deal.


I don't think it's a good deal. Dresden Files RPG gave it out for free with pre-orders.

Lame. Especially if you look at it as I'm buying your product, sight unseen. This game could totally suck and I'm taking a chance. $5 PDF really doesn't sweeten the deal for me.
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby WebScud » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:51 am

chrislackey wrote:I don't think it's a good deal. Dresden Files RPG gave it out for free with pre-orders.

Lame. Especially if you look at it as I'm buying your product, sight unseen. This game could totally suck and I'm taking a chance. $5 PDF really doesn't sweeten the deal for me.


I'd rather make the $5 investment. If the game sucks, fine. I'd much rather have the PDF at a steep discount and take the risk, than kick myself later.
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby flyingcircus » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:25 pm

chrislackey wrote:
WebScud wrote:
WebScud wrote:I think the preorder just went live, unless I missed the order button earlier.

Is there no book + PDF combo like the Dargon Age preoroders?


Never mind. I added the book to my cart and was offered the PDF for $5. Good deal.


I don't think it's a good deal. Dresden Files RPG gave it out for free with pre-orders.

Lame. Especially if you look at it as I'm buying your product, sight unseen. This game could totally suck and I'm taking a chance. $5 PDF really doesn't sweeten the deal for me.


I have the PDF and Pre-Ordered, believe me this game wont suck, If you liked M&M 2e you will enjoy this game.
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby chrislackey » Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:01 pm

It just feels to me that Evil Hat set a precedent. I really enjoyed their game and they stood by their product. FREE pdf with the pre-order. That's incentive. $5 additional for the PDF. I'll wait and see what folks say after it's been out a while. I was going to wait with the Dresden Files, but with the free PDF with pre-order, it sold me.

But hey, that's just me. everyone else seems to think it's a bargin.
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby Cobalt » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:46 am

Hey all. I have to admit, though Ive got M&M (1st & 2nd ed), I never thought to join the forums here until I saw that GR got ahold of the DC license.

I have a pretty crazy passion for superhero RPGs, but I never thought I would see someone get a chance to do this license, just because of the continued success of the card games, the new MMO, etc.

I am dying to see the game in full form. (Im geeking here, I know..) Using Alex Ross's art for the cover was brilliant. The interior art is just as inspired. I am so glad its GR doing this title, and not some other company!

From what I could glean from the .pdf character write ups, the game seems similar to M&M, but far enough away that they would not be bound by Open License Agreements.

OK, Ill stop geeking now.. Does anyone know if the book as going to be available by Gen Con?
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby Nikchick » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:32 am

chrislackey wrote:It just feels to me that Evil Hat set a precedent. I really enjoyed their game and they stood by their product. FREE pdf with the pre-order. That's incentive. $5 additional for the PDF. I'll wait and see what folks say after it's been out a while. I was going to wait with the Dresden Files, but with the free PDF with pre-order, it sold me.

But hey, that's just me. everyone else seems to think it's a bargin.


Evil Hat is a much different operation than Green Ronin. I admire Fred's ambitious PDF program but as the livelihoods of Green Ronin's full-time employees rely on us making the right decisions on issue like this, we're forced to be a little more conservative. Our PDFs are products in their own right that have a value. It's my opinion that giving them away for free devalues them as products and sets the expectation that they're "worth" nothing because you can get them for nothing. Others may (and do) disagree with me on that but that's where Green Ronin sits on the issue at this time.

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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby Nikchick » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:33 am

Cobalt wrote:Does anyone know if the book as going to be available by Gen Con?


We're having copies drop-shipped to GenCon. Books will appear in stores within a week or so after the con, assuming no shipping delays with the bulk of the print run.

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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby Cobalt » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:58 am

Nikchick wrote:
Cobalt wrote:Does anyone know if the book as going to be available by Gen Con?


We're having copies drop-shipped to GenCon. Books will appear in stores within a week or so after the con, assuming no shipping delays with the bulk of the print run.

Nicole


Thanks!! Just sign me the heck up.. Ill be the guy first in line on Thursday..
Im just a bit fanatic like that :o
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby trunkmonkee » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:50 am

"Evil Hat is a much different operation than Green Ronin. I admire Fred's ambitious PDF program but as the livelihoods of Green Ronin's full-time employees rely on us making the right decisions on issue like this, we're forced to be a little more conservative. Our PDFs are products in their own right that have a value. It's my opinion that giving them away for free devalues them as products and sets the expectation that they're "worth" nothing because you can get them for nothing. Others may (and do) disagree with me on that but that's where Green Ronin sits on the issue at this time."



The DCA pdf @ $5 is fair and is a good incentive to pre order the book. I am trying to work out a misunderstanding about how the code availability works for pre orders right now. I was under the impression that you get the DCA pdf code as soon as you pre order the game. The kind folks I am working this out with were under the impression that the code would be given out when customers actually pick up the book from the store. I hope to get a code soon so that GR can get my five bucks :).
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby flyingcircus » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:51 am

I don't understand why all the pre-ordered people have to wait until after Gen Con to get their books, why not ship them the day of the con? I never go to GenCon and never will. :roll:
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby Nikchick » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:36 pm

flyingcircus wrote:I don't understand why all the pre-ordered people have to wait until after Gen Con to get their books, why not ship them the day of the con? I never go to GenCon and never will. :roll:


The books won't actually be in the warehouse to be shipped until after GenCon. The printer is drop shipping the first books off the presses to GenCon and the bulk of the shipment to the warehouse, where they have to be received, inventoried, staged for shipping, and then shipped.
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby Cobalt » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:09 am

Nikchick wrote:The books won't actually be in the warehouse to be shipped until after GenCon. The printer is drop shipping the first books off the presses to GenCon and the bulk of the shipment to the warehouse, where they have to be received, inventoried, staged for shipping, and then shipped.


Im hoping you get them by the Con opening Thursday. I fully intend on beingat your booth with big puppy-dog eyes from the minute the doors open, until you hand me the book. Hoping that doesn't mean I need to bring a lawn chair and a cooler of b..eh, soda.

I am really excited about this release. Almost as much for you as I am for me. The DC license is something you could really take advantage of! Best of luck with this!
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby flyingcircus » Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:49 pm

Heck, I just want my pre-ordered book NOW! Dang I can't wait any longer....must have book........ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! :green:
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Re: DC Adventures RPG

Postby Youseph » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:18 am

I see that some books have been spoted at GenCon.

http://www.rpgblog2.com/2010/08/zacks-gen-con-liveblog-day-1.html
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