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Postby Megumi Jyaku » Fri Aug 30, 2002 10:32 am

Please say you'll never never ever ever let Skip Williams author a Green Ronin product. At least not until the end of the world. I tear my hair out when I read what arbitrary rule change he's made to the D&D system each month in the official D&D FAQ. This month he decided to break Divine Feats, by making an exception out of Divine Might. Please please please tell me his name will never appear on the cover of a Green Ronin product.

Talking about Divine Feats, feel free to ask for proposals from Rich Redman or James Wyatt. They're both quality designers.
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Postby Khan the Warlord » Tue Sep 03, 2002 3:33 am

ROTFLMAO!

Yeah, you're quite right: Skip Williams is a no good HACK that doesn't deserve to be published by Green Ronin Publishing or anyone else for that matter. Let's forget the fact that he has ran Sage Advice (*the* definitive article and man about rules-lawyering) for years now in Dragon Magazine, has been associated with SIX official TSR/WotC campaign worlds, ONE miniatures world, THREE editions of the world's most popular role-playing game, and has only been in the RPG business for over 16+ years now.

Seriously, let's take a look at this fool's poor work record below, which contains a listing of products that he has had any contributions in:


3rd Edition D&D
Player's Handbook 2000
Dungeon Master's Guide 2000
Monster Manual Review 2000
D&D Gazetteer Setting 2000
Tome and Blood: A Guidebook to Wizards and Sorcerers 2001
Enemies And Allies 2001
Deep Horizon 2001
Conversion Manual Free!! 2000
Deities and Demigods 2002
Monster Manual II 2002
Book of Challenges: Dungeon Rooms, Puzzles, and Traps 2002
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting 2001

Chainmail:
Chainmail Core Rulebook 2002
Chainmail Guidebook: Dragon's Flight 2002

Advanced Dungeons & Dragons:
Monstrous Compendium, Fiend Folio Appendix 1992
Player's Option: Combat & Tactics 1995
Dungeon Master's Options: High Level Campaign 1995
Thief's Screen 1994
GR5 City Sites 1994
Axe of the Dwarvish Lords 1999
The Rod of Seven Parts, boxed adventure 1996
GR4 Treasure Chest 1994
GA7 Moonlight Madness RPGA Network Adventure 1998

Dragonlance:
(DLT2) Book of Lairs 1993
A Saga Companion, 5th Age, dramatic supplement 1998

Greyhawk:
MC5 Monstrous Compendium Greyhawk Appendix 1990
WG9 Gargoyle 1995
WG10 Child's Play 1989

Monstrous Arcana:
The Sea Devils Monstrous Arcana adventure 1997

Mystara:
Monstrous Compendium Appendix 1994

Planescape:
PS3 In the Abyss 1994

Ravenloft:
Van Richten's Monster Hunter's Compendium, Vol 2 1999
RR9 Van Richten's Guide to the Ancient Dead 1994

Forgotten Realms:
LC4 Port of Ravens Bluff 1991

Dungeons & Dragons:
M2 Vengeance of Alphaks 1986

Megumi Jyaku is SO right. Chris, Nicole, and everyone else at Green Ronin -- STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM THIS WONDERFUL GAMES DESIGNER AS YOU CAN. Skip Williams might actually garner more positive attention to GR, help sell product, and maybe, just maybe, help GR win another ENnie.

JUST SAY NO!

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Postby Nikchick » Tue Sep 03, 2002 9:27 am

I'm soooo not touching this thread.

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Postby Megumi Jyaku » Tue Sep 03, 2002 10:42 am

Khan the Warlord wrote:Yeah, you're quite right: Skip Williams is a no good HACK that doesn't deserve to be published by Green Ronin Publishing or anyone else for that matter.
I couldn't agree more.

His input in the core rulebooks was minimal. We can chalk up the majority of the design to Monte and Tweet.

What I see of Skip lately is that he's systematically altering the core rules via the D&D FAQ and Sage's Advice without any view to the larger picture. And it seems without any peer review.

All the quality designers have left WotC, so Skip finally has free reign to make 3E his own now.

Read over the FAQ sometime, I get the impression he barely knows the rules at all, so often do his answers deviate from what is actually written. Or, he's simply decided to implement his home rules on a global basis.
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Postby SassyRonin » Tue Sep 03, 2002 10:47 am

Let's keep in nice in here, kids. Are we keeping it nice? Let's do that. Keep it nice, that is. In here.

Webmaster's getting a headache... :(
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Postby Khan the Warlord » Wed Sep 04, 2002 5:08 am

Oh wow, I DO hope that everyone realizes that I wasn't bashing Skip Williams at all, but instead created a post with MUCH dripping sarcasm about him having "no skills".

With that history of being in the business and those numerous publishing credits under his belt, how could one truly argue that he isn't worthy of publication?

/me shrugs.
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Postby Warchild » Wed Sep 04, 2002 5:13 am

:o whoa.

Did you copy that list of credits of a site or something?

Or did you just know them off-hand?

If the answer to the second question is YES, then i am seriously worried about you Khan! :)
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Postby Megumi Jyaku » Wed Sep 04, 2002 5:49 am

Warchild wrote::o whoa.

Did you copy that list of credits of a site or something?

Or did you just know them off-hand?

If the answer to the second question is YES, then i am seriously worried about you Khan! :)

He may be Skip's press agent. :lol:
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Postby Warchild » Wed Sep 04, 2002 7:46 am

of the books listed above, I only have the 3E PHB, 3E DMG, and the Combat & Tactics. So i guess i really don't have an opinion on the man!! :)
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Postby Warchild » Wed Sep 04, 2002 7:47 am

Megumi Jyaku wrote: He may be Skip's press agent. :lol:


I certaintly hope he is getting compensation :lol:
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Postby Khan the Warlord » Thu Sep 05, 2002 1:43 am

Warchild wrote:Did you copy that list of credits of a site or something?

Or did you just know them off-hand?


Well, I do own all of those books listed above, but no, I didn't have his work history memorized. I pulled them off of a little site and I've even now discovered that the site didn't have a full listing of EVERYTHING he's done before.

If the answer to the second question is YES, then i am seriously worried about you Khan! :)


Hell, I'M worried about me, though not for that reason.

:lol:
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