Ghostdanser wrote:shonuff wrote: But access to a long lost thaig (one either abandoned before a Blight or completely cut off) would work
If the lost Thaig idea is implemented, then it is definitely cut off from the Deep Roads and the Surface Dwarves probably aren’t too keen on trying to reopen the path, the threat of the Darkspawn is just too much for such a small number.
What about an thaig that only had one entrance to the Deep Roads? At the beginning of the first Blight, the Tevinter and the dwarves flooded a portion of the Deep Roads, essentially blocking the thaig permamently from the rest of the Roads. This made the thaig unsustainable, so the dwarves left. The thaig's refugees were massacred en route to Orzammar, so the thaig was considered destroyed.
Ghostdanser wrote:shonuff wrote:I would think that it makes the most sense that the original Tevinter fortress would have been abandoned during the First Blight. The keep would have remained standing, much like the Tower of Ishael. However, many of the walls and outbuildings would have fallen into disrepair (and those that did would be cannibalized for building homes and businesses).
Cannibalized ruins makes sense. So the city would be near the Keep but not in it, although it would still make sense to use the central tower for their lighthouse, rather than building a new one. No real adventure prospects for the ruins, they would be well picked over. There’s always a chance of a well hidden cache, but the odds of finding anything are slim.
The Tevinter could have installed a lighthouse, so the settlers wouldn't have had to repurpose the keep.
Ghostdanser wrote:shonuff wrote:I was thinking that, too. Given the original calculator, 5K population could support 2.5 inns, and my phantom population could support 3.75 inns. I could see more, especially if you factored in a quality inn and a ramshackle one. If you throw brothels into the inn category, it could go even higher. However, I see most people passing through would actually keep their berths on the ships, as they wouldn't be travelling to the city, but rather to someplace else.
The thing about ships is that the sailors will most likely sleep on their ship (or in a gutter), but any passengers on a ship are just as likely to stay at an inn…you don’t see too many people getting sea sick in an inn. The more expensive the passenger the greater the likelihood of staying at an inn. Brothels may or may not be considered inns…but then again they rent by the hour and may have trouble with the math if you try to rent for an entire night. So I think Inns - 6 will work, with the understanding that some bars (and other establishments) might rent rooms.
Good points. What about bumping up number of inns to say... 10? 15 if you include brothels?
Ghostdanser wrote:shonuff wrote:Sure. I don't know if I would necessarily call that a category
Yeah…probably not really an industry, but the divers that do it have incredible stamina.
From Wikipedia: “The crew went out into the Mediterranean Sea in a small boat, and used a cylindrical object with a glass bottom to search the ocean floor for sponges. When one was found, a diver went overboard to get it. Free diving, he was usually naked and carried a 15 kilograms (33 lb) skandalopetra, a rounded stone tied on a rope to the boat, to take him down to the bottom quickly. The diver then cut the sponge loose from the bottom and put a special net around it. Depth and bottom time depended on the diver's lung capacity. They often went down to about 30 metres (100 ft) for up to 5 minutes.”
I just think it’s nifty idea for a plot hook actually, they could also be used to salvage wrecks.
Yeah, it makes sense that there would be pearl divers... I just wouldn't call it a business (but then again, pearl divers might disagree with me -- haha). Your numbers make sense to me, though.
Ghostdanser wrote: Back on topic…the ruling families, let us say 8 major families that make up about 10% of the population, that’s pretty significant. We can work on details, but I am thinking that one of the families never has had a family member hold the Viscount position. This is by design, that family prefers to work behind the scenes, if their candidate is Viscount they manipulate their decisions without any direct ties to show they are the power behind the throne. If an unsuitable (to their mind) candidate becomes Viscount, they work to poison their reputation, ultimately getting them removed…and if poisoning their reputation doesn’t work, then there is always the other kind of poison…
Sounds good. Throw in Orlais, Nevarra, etc., and it can be an interesting mix in politicking and intrigue.
Ghostdanser wrote: Which brings me to...what should we call the council leader/members, Viscount or should we pick something else? Also, how willful should the current leader be…a puppet, a true leader or somewhere in between? Note that a true leader is not necessarily at odds with the family that likes to rule from behind the scenes, depending on which direction he is leading.
Although, I originally wasn't a fan of Viscount, I changed my mind because of the probable Orlesian control in the city's relatively recent history. However, with the ruling families, I'm against Viscount again, as I would say that they wouldn't want to choose a Viscount. What about Lord Mayor, Governor, or Archon?
Ghostdanser wrote: Also, I have to admit that I am not particularly bugs about Lindscrag as a name. I like the crag part, but I'm not sold on Linds. I basically just looked at the naming convention for the Free Marches, all of the cities had fairly short names all with different enidngs, Mark-ham, Ost-wick, Kirk-wall...so I figured something-crag would work. If anyone has a suggestion put it in...or if Lindscrag works then we'll just go with that.
I understand. I like the "crag" but I think I might like it more for a non-focal city. Too harsh sounding, I think, as is, and I'm big on how words sound -- I don't like pork because I hate the word "pork" lol. But I've got no real alternative, either. Keeping Lind, you might be able to do something like Linderskeep, and say the Lind was the name of the person who re-discovered it or founded the city.