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HelgiBergmann wrote:The power rules don't seem to be able to replicate this. The first banner house costs 20 power, then 10 for the next one, and then 5 for each subsequent one. This means that in order to have, say, 10 banner houses, which is not that much for a powerful great house, you'd need 70 power, which according to the table on page 97 means that you have all the armies of Westeros at your disposal. This makes no sense. We feel that, as our game is all about the players' noble houses (each player controls a single noble house) trying to become great powers in Westeros, the rules should be able to reflect that.
Our solution to this problem is to go by the table, meaning that a noble house has the power indicated by its power score available to invest in military units, and then gets "free" banner houses according to the table. So a house with a Power score of, say, 35 would have 2 banner houses, while a house with 47 would get several (maybe 5-6) and so on, and both of these houses would get to invest all of their power into personal armies.
Zorbeltuss wrote:I may be wrong, but the norm seems to be that noble houses (where the head gets to call himself Lord, and has right to pit and gallows) are sworn to the Great House of their region. Way I see it, those do not count as bannermen in game technical terms.
nakraal wrote:Well the Warden of one of the Kingdoms (a great house) should have all and only the major houses as bannermen. The major houses should have the minor houses divided to them and the minor should have the landed to them (of course the landed houses are too numerous to be included tin the campaign guide). Thus when the Warden gives a call to arms he raises every single house in his realm.
Its like medieval Europe where the Archduke calls his Dukes to arms, who call their counts who call their barons, but the archduke cannot call a count who is not his immediate vassal.
I got that cleared out much by playing Crusader Knights II.
So House Tully only need to spend 35 points in having the 3 major houses as bannermen.
Iron Legs wrote:Me and my players have built some Houses, and nobody wanted banner houses: they prefeared military units.
Perhaps a solution is allow to invest influence points in buying banner houses.
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