On 2002-03-05 11:50, Kalendraf wrote:
The biggest problem I've run into with the series so far is the experience situation. Let me explain...
At the end of DiF, the 5 member party was almost up to 2nd level, I think. I ran the "Holiday in the Sun" mini adventure to push them up to 2nd level. Then ran them on a couple side adventures at sea to bring them up to 3rd level.
My group (4 PCs at the time) reached 2nd level at the end of DiF. I've also been giving some roleplaying XP (the up to 50/level per session suggested in the DMG), which might have helped (I don't recall all the details anymore).
I ran an adventure of my own, then "Holiday in the Sun." We added a 5th player between these two, and one player changed PCs, so they were 3 L3 and 2 L2 going into TiF, and 1 L4 (barely) and 4 L3 by the end.
The just finished TiF, and they are still 3rd level. TiF flows directly into MiF, but indicates that the party should be about 4th to 6th level to start it. So again I'm having to run a mini-adventure to bring them up a bit more.
So before starting TiF, I think the party should actually be about mid-point of 3rd level and well on their way to 4th level. The stuff they'll face in MiF is quite a bit more challenging, especially in the final act.
Checking the notes in TiF & MiF, I saw that the two modules assume about a month of game-time between the two. So I ran a couple short adventures that got them all up to about the middle of 4th level for MiF.
Because of the challenges they're facing in MiF (which we're in the middle of), I'm awarding XP between sessions, and will let them level mid-adventure. One PC started close to 5th, and will level as soon as they take a short breather in-game.
Personally, I would have liked to see some guidelines that spell this out a bit more to indicate that the DM will have to improvise between this or that part of the series. They've provided some nice leads to use, but I would have liked more in the way of experience estimates to work off of.
Same here. I've been spending some time calculating all the XP available in each adventure (and in my own in between), to guestimate where the PCs should be after each adventure. The party hasn't always followed those projections.
It's pretty clear from both the intros and the pregen PCs in DiF & TiF where they intend the party to be (1st & 3rd, respectively). MiF didn't give any pregens (probably because it makes little sense unless you've run DiF & TiF first), or state the intended level more narrowly than "4th-6th." Based on the encounters and the gap between the first two modules, I'd say it's probably aimed at 5th.
My own group is 5 PCs, not 4, who aren't min-maxed as well as they could be. They should all reach 5th level during MiF, so if they survive the first few parts, the final confrontation should be about the right challenge level (i.e., tough but not *instantly* fatal).